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KP02A body review, & comparison with HT's (Noland/BarneyRoss/Whiplash) body var.


KP02A body review, and side-by-side comparison with HT's (Noland/Barney Ross/Whiplash) body variant.

Some have requested a direct comparison between the 2.

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Originally Posted by Kaustic Plastik

I really hope to have your feedbacks, suggestions, critics!!

Feedbacks, Suggestions and Critiques... This would be all three.

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It's between the model used in Expendables and T-800

More of the former by more ways than one.

Review
1. As suspected by myself and few others, KPA02 is "base on" HT Barney Ross/Whiplash body. A more accurate description is: KP used the base HT body and:
a) Adding sculpt to the exterior ot the torso, abs, arms and legs so that it varies from HT's.
b) The pelvis shape (exterior/function) remains mostly unchanged except for the slight shift of the screw holes.
c) The slight changes to shoulder rotation pin that (inadvertently) makes the Arms modular (you can pop it out of the socket).
d) The internals are almost 100% "recast" based on HT's body. Hence, good replacement/swappable parts with HT's bodies.
e) The whole body from the hips/pelvic region to the top of tip of the neck is the same length as the HT's, the upper legs are longer by approx 0.5 cm, while lower legs would be the same/similar to the extended lower legs (together with extended pegs option too) of HT variants, with standard TT lower legs it's approx 1.7cm longer. Proportionally, KP's legs seems too long.

The Good/Improvements:
1. Materials used are of good (I'd put it: preferred) quality. It gives some flexing while materials used by HT are more rigid which tends to break.
2. Thick PVC material used for the upper torso (which brings a weakness). HT's very thin by comparison.

The Bad/Weakness:
1. The far too thick PVC of the upper torso around the rib area, making it like fat build-up in odd places.
2. The knees bent has far too sharp angles jutting out.
3. The base of the neck is rather loose, so adjustment through a screw at the back would alleviate this, but you can't (which will be discuss in "the ugly").
4. Because of the pin design of the shoulders, it would be more prone to be loose, swinging back and forth over- a-time-course/frequent posing.

The Ugly:
1) The claims as a complete in-house KP 3D CAD design.
2) Drill out (Stripping) the "philips" screw head of the 3 screws holding the internal torso together, so no typical screw driver can "expose" further internals. Well, it took me all of 5 minutes dremel, to get the screw to be fully functioning again, I do appreciate a good mental challenge/obstacle. The QUESTION: Why create such an inconvenience? (I'll leave it at that)

Personal opinions:
KP did recreate a good alternative body (or duplicate body) with some weaknesses and some improvements. Being a retail product this is bound to be dissected to its basic components and be exposed for what it is. I personally disagree with the claims made. I would call a square, a square. Be it HT or any other companies, they would expect their products to be dissected with appropriate merits/credits to novelty of design.

Note on pics, I've used a compact wide angle camera so there will be some perspective distortion.... I could always break out my DSLR with macro-lens
Pictures: Left (KP02A): Right (Noland's body)

Pelvis:

Abdomen:

Upper Torso:

Odd sharp knees:

Arms/shoulder joint:

Proof on concept. The interchangeable parts of KP's and HT's bodies. Note, because of slight difference in sizes you can't by default use Noland's hips and legs on KP02A's pelvis, a minor mod will be needed to do so (as seen, you'll have no problems doing the opposite). Right: Hybrid as indicated by the colour. KP's inner neck peg and Arms/Shoulders on Noland's inner & outer upper torso, connected to KP's abdomen which is in turn to Noland's Pelvic and again to KP's hips and legs:

Odin's body: KP02A, (arms' obviously different) this is length/proportion comparison:

Needless to say I disagree with the following comments (with proof), "and why the bias?" is all that I'll add.:

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Similar, yes, copy, hell no!

Give the guy a break, he's just starting out and needs all the support he can get. We all have to start somewhere!

CHEERS!

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People seem to have serious issues of perception that I don't understand. If people can't tell the difference between the Iron Man Mark III and Mark IV designs even when side by side. I am not surprised that they can tell the difference between two similarly sized 1/6 scale human bodies.

The Kaustic body is very different from any of the HT bodies in many ways. It's clearly a made-from-scratch body that uses some similar articulation.

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I don't understand what you are getting at? Wouldn't you expect that 2 simalarily sized body builders to have similar proportions? Yes the side by side pics look similar. Similar in that that they are both muscular and have normal body parts. The design of the body though is vastly different. I don't know how much it cost to design a body but I guess it would be Thousands if not Tens of Thousands. I know if I had a company and spent that kind of money I would be offended if someone came along and said "but it's a recast of Hot Toys".

p.s. Take a product for what it is... alot of people do appreciate the availability and variation that KP bodies provide.
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Interesting review. The KP-02 is the HT clone or sorts. The one that is sold on eBay for 25.00 right>?

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Really thorough review, that answers some questions people have had. Kinda imagine this thread might get a little ugly, but thanks for the time to do the review for sure.

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Well mate, a good review for sure , but because here you telling (in some way) that I'm a copycat of an other company and a liar too, I think I have to add something to your review.

I will take of course your critics in the proper consideration, and for sure this body can have a lot of improvements and some weakness (so some of your critics are very welcome).. But some of your points, are honestly NOT CORRECT (and I can add also that are unfair)

a) Adding sculpt to the exterior of the torso, abs, arms and legs so that it varies from HT's.
How you can prove that? Did you see how our sculptor work? Did you see the material used for the sculpt? Do you have any kind of prove that we "added" something on a base of another company? Sorry to tell you, but this it's totally untrue and honestly unfair. But I will take thinking that not everybody can like me and what I do... So for sure you are not a fan of KP And this is ok for me.

Our muscular parts are made on a 100% new cast of the body. And until you cannot REALLY prove your conjectures, I will take as was is: just your speculation.
I like also to add something, that on internet you can find the prove that what I'm saying it's true, and this proof are the sculpture used for this body, where you can see clearly that it's 100% new sculpt. As you can see from the pictures of the first prototype, that at the beginning a lot of mechanism (like shoulder mechanism) was not even added to the prototype, because is something that we added later on a 3D cad study of stability.

b) The pelvis shape (exterior/function) remains mostly unchanged except for the slight shift of the screw holes.
If I have to copy something.. why change the placement of the screw holes? And didn't you noticed, (even if from the picture is clear) that the internal part is different, even the number of part used are not the same! Didn't is this clear enough from the pictures? Why spend time changing? Why change the screw hole places? And you know how is possible decided a placement for Screw hole? Studying a model with a 3d cad program. I decided to keep as much similar as possible some parts and function of the pelvis, to keep compatibility with Hot Toys bodies. It's not a secret (because I said too many time) that my target was to make something compatible with Hot Toys, to give customers possibility of change it and make something unique, shifting pieces, etc.etc.

c) The slight changes to shoulder rotation pin that (inadvertently) makes the Arms modular (you can pop it out of the socket).
It's something we did intentionally. For the same reason I explained in the previous point. Give you possibility to change easily also the Torso, and interchange it with Hot Toys torso (and new torso as well, that we hope to produce soon)

d) The internals are almost 100% "recast" based on HT's body. Hence, good replacement/swappable parts with HT's bodies.
Again this is not true. It's very clear from your pictures, that our internal parts are only COMPATIBLE with hot toys mechanism (except some parts that are universal compatible, so every company uses the same), similar but not identical. You call it "recast", I call it 3d CAD Cast study of material, stability and improvement of technology

e) The whole body from the hips/pelvic region to the top of tip of the neck is the same length as the HT's, the upper legs are longer by approx 0.5 cm, while lower legs would be the same/similar to the extended lower legs (together with extended pegs option too) of HT variants, with standard TT lower legs it's approx 1.7cm longer. Proportionally, KP's legs seems too long.
So again you prove two things: 1) that it's not made adding sculpt on an HT body, so otherwise why have it of different length on legs? 2) That our model was carefully studied and designed on a 3D CAD program. How do you think a body can have this kind of stability, even if his weight its quite high? All this things are designed using 3D programs.. And you should know this very well Last thing. I don't think our leg are too long. You can find a lot of GREAT LOOKING bashes on internet based on our bodies.. and they look COOL, not deformed.

So I hope it's quite clear now that:

a) Our body it's not made adding a sculpt on some other products (different length, and different shape of muscular parts)
b) We never keep secret that we studied a way to make some mechanism as compatible as possible with HT. Why this shock you so much?
c) To arrive at this result, it's CLEAR that we used a 3D CAD design program. This kind of things are impossible to design without the help of a program like that.


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Thanks for the review BeastX. I JUST literally bought my first KP2 (already have 2x KP01) an hour ago and found your review. Now I don't have do my own review.

Fabio, I say take it easy and relax. There are some things BeastX say is correct and the same for you. There is a mantra in the mass production industry - don't fix what is working.

You did improve on the body, made possibly better but was inspired by original HT design. Lots of people do this and there is nothing wrong with that.

But saying 100% original proof of concept including internal mechanism without a HT body for reference would be incorrect. It is obvious someone chosed to use what works from HT's body and make similar changes during production. The internal support structure is so close there is no denying this.

Screw hole placements to justify originality? That is a weak support argument since you could have even made it snap and hold together without screws in the first place.

Maybe BeastX's words were a bit harsh but that is his opinion as a consumer. I am also a consumer and still a fan of yours. But lets call an Ace an Ace and not a Jack.

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I have been following the developement of KP's bodies very closely since the announcement of the KP01 (I've had 3 of the )!'s and enjoy them immensely) and I don't understand some of the animosity towards Fabio and what he is trying to do for us.
He designed and built a very nice and affordable muscle body when the only option available to us, as collectors, was paying a premium price for a Hot Toys muscle body parted out from a Royce, Dastan, Comedian, Wolverine set. And I really don't think that Hot Toys would have finally got around to offering the TTM 19 if not for KP showing how marketable a carded muscle body would be. Then we ask for a bigger body and he delivers and people start casting aspersions about recasting and copying HT's big bodies.
Really, is the HT mafia so pervasive that we can't be grateful when some other company comes along to give us what we asked for for so long?
Fabio has said repeatedly thaat he intentinally built in compatibility with the HT body to allow people to combine the bodies to come up with something new and original and the OP proved that this is possible. I
I guess I just don't understand what all the fuss is about. If you want a cool , affordable muscle body, buy this one. If you don't, don't. But constantly saying Fabio stole from HT, or is not telling the truth about how he designed the body is counterproductive and unfair.
I own a Ford and a Dodge and other than a slight variation in placement of the ignitions and gearshifts, they are pretty much exactly the same. I start them, put them in gear and steer them to where I want to go but no one I know runs around accusing Ford of ripping off Chrysler or vice versa.
Birds gotta fly, fish gotta swim. And unfortunately some people have to over analyse and find fault where there really is none to be found.
What if Fab and his team said "Screw you ungrateful so and so's. Go pay $100 plus for the HT T800 bodies. I'm tired of the ruckus."?
We all talk about how we'd like this in 1/6 th or that in 1/6th and when someone does there are an unfortunate few for whom nothing is ever good enough and we wonder why we don't get a lot of what we ask for.
I am not targeting the OP with this post but I realise that there has been a lot of rhetoric about this body and in the words of the late, great Rodney King, can't we all just get along?

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BeastX, thanks for your review.

As for beign a "re-cast", I have to say, no.

As a hobby recaster, I can tell you that the plastic used in this carded body CANNOT be poured into the traditional molds that can be taken using the Silicon mold / Resin pouring "recast" process much associated with this hobby.

It has to be made into a metal mold that can be:
a) negative SAND molded, then metal is poured to form the actual mold
or
b) MILLED from a block of metal, which judging by the shape of the muscle, it was sand molded.

Given how the internal pieces are different:

You can see the different torso sockets, KP is a single peg socket shaped like a "T", the HT Noland body has a double peg socket shaped like this: ?)

one can also see that each noland piece is actually two, while KP is 1.

Thickness is also a factor, but I would ask you to measure the square shaped hole in the pelvis, their different measure indictates that it, too, it's not a direct re-cast of any sort.

In the end I wouldn't call it a re-cast, neither 100% original.

Perhaps reverse-engineered to maintain compatibility would be a better judgement, which, as stated, was one of the original goals.

Again, after seeing the KP02 taken apart bit by bit with such great pictures leave me nothing but good impressions from KP's manufacturing quality, which equals their involvement in the hobby.

Thanks again for your review BeastX, as with that knolowedge in hand, I know that if I buy a KP02 body, it will be a great purchase for a better price than HT.

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I agree with this. Nothing is 100% original, even outside of the hobby, so to expect it within is a tad silly.

I can definitely see where some points of design were drawn from HT's, but to be honest, when you have an industry leader marketing in demand items, some constructive borrowing is to be expected if one wishes to compete. One has to look no further than the automotive industry to see this on a daily basis, and very few of us cry "recaster" at every car we see on the road today.

This said, recast was not the proper choice of words, Though a 3d scan, and modification in CAD could have been a good place to begin. All in all however, I love the body, and as soon as my lost credit card is replaced, I'll most likely finally pop on one of these.

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Rachel Corrie - Murdered by Israel

Rachel Corrie was 23 years old when she was murdered by an Israeli military bulldozer tank in 2003. This morning, after almost a decade long struggle to see justice prevail, an Israeli court decided that there was no negligence on part of the Israeli state or army and dismissed a civil lawsuit brought by the family.

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British inquests returned verdicts of unlawful killings in all three deaths, but Israel rejected calls for the soldiers who killed Miller and Hook to be held to account. The Israeli military initially whitewashed Hurndall's killing but after an outcry led by his parents and British government pressure, the sniper who shot him was sentenced to eight years in prison for manslaughter.

That sentence apparently did nothing to erode a military mindset that sees only enemies.

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Rachel Corrie - one day, you and all those that have suffered at the hands of the Israeli's will get the true justice you deserve.

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Tokyo court: Samsung didn't infringe Apple patent

TOKYO (AP) ? A Tokyo court on Friday dismissed Apple Inc.'s claim that Samsung had infringed on its patent ? the latest ruling in the global legal battle between the two technology titans over smartphones.

The Japanese court case addressed only the synchronizing technology that allows media players to share data with personal computers and was not comparable in scope to the much larger victory that Apple won in the U.S. last week.

Samsung Electronics Co. of South Korea, the world's largest maker of phones, welcomed the Tokyo District Court ruling that its technology that allows media players and personal computers to share music files and other content did not infringe on Apple patents as confirming "our long-held position."

"We will continue to offer highly innovative products to consumers, and continue our contributions toward the mobile industry's development," the company said in a statement.

The Apple lawyer present at the courthouse declined comment, and the company said later it had no comment, including whether it intended to appeal. In the past, Apple has accused Samsung of copying Apple products.

In a session lasting just a few minutes, Judge Tamotsu Shoji said he did not think Samsung products fell into the realm of Apple technology and dismissed the lawsuit, filed by Apple in August last year.

Apple, the Cupertino, California-based maker of the hit iPhone and iPad, is embroiled in similar legal tussles around the world over whether Samsung smartphones, which rely on Google Inc.'s Android technology, illegally used Apple designs, ideas or technology.

In one such case, a jury in California ruled last week that Samsung products illegally used such Apple creations as the "bounce-back" feature when a user scrolls to an end image, and the ability to zoom text with a tap of a finger.

The jury awarded Apple $1 billion in damages, and a judge is now evaluating Apple's request to have eight Samsung products pulled from shelves and banned from the U.S. market, including popular Galaxy model smartphones. Samsung's latest hit, Galaxy S3, was not part of the U.S. ruling.

Friday's ruling was the first held in Japan in the Samsung-Apple global court battle, but other technology is being contested by the two companies in separate legal cases in Japan.

Seo Won-seok, an analyst at Seoul-based Korea Investment & Securities, said the Tokyo verdict showed that the lawsuits around the world are largely isolated and may not be affected by Apple's major victory in California.

"The favorable ruling for Samsung convinces me that lawsuits in other countries may play out differently from the one in the U.S.," he said.

Apple products are extremely popular among Japanese consumers, but major Japanese carriers such as NTT DoCoMo sell Samsung smartphones as well. Japanese electronics maker Sony Corp. also makes smartphones and tablet devices similar to Samsung's, using Android technology.

Samsung has sold more than 50 million Galaxy S and Galaxy S2 smartphones around the world. The legal battle also involves Samsung's Tab device, which Apple claims infringes on patents related to the iPad tablet.

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AP Technology Writer Youkyung Lee in Seoul contributed to this report.

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/tokyo-court-samsung-didnt-infringe-apple-patent-045539536--finance.html

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SAIC Announces Financial Results for Second Quarter of Fiscal ...

MCLEAN, Va., Aug.?30, 2012 /PRNewswire/ --?SAIC, Inc. (NYSE: SAI), a scientific, engineering, and technology applications company, today announced financial results for the second quarter of fiscal year 2013, which ended July 31, 2012. ?In a separate press release today, the Company announced its plan to separate SAIC into two independent, publicly traded companies.

"Our 8% internal revenue growth during the quarter highlights our strong market position, disciplined execution of our strategy, and the dedicated efforts of our employees," said John P. Jumper, chairman and chief executive officer.?"In announcing today the next step of our strategic plan to separate into two publicly traded companies, we configure ourselves for the future.? Our two companies will be designed so that the businesses can be more differentiated and more competitive in their own space.? More importantly, that addressable space will expand for each as we eliminate the burden of organizational conflicts of interest which have restricted our overall business.? This affords both companies an excellent opportunity to combine optimized cost structures, unrestricted access to their respective markets, and the leveraging of decades of SAIC's scientific and engineering excellence.? This will unleash the growth and value we can deliver to our customers, employees and shareholders."

Summary Results

Revenues for the second quarter of fiscal year 2013 were $2.85 billion, up 10 percent from $2.60 billion in the second quarter of fiscal year 2012.? Internal revenue growth, which represented 8 percent of the consolidated revenue growth, was driven by increased program activity in the Defense Solutions and Intelligence and Cybersecurity Solutions segments.

Operating income for the quarter was $191 million (6.7 percent of revenue), down from $209 million (8.1 percent of revenue) in the second quarter of fiscal year 2012.? The reduction in operating income was attributable to a net unfavorable change in contract estimates compared to a net positive change in contract estimates in the prior year period; increased indirect spending, including bid and proposal costs; and $11 million of charges associated with the corporate relocation and the strategic review leading to the planned separation announced today.

Income from continuing operations for the quarter was $110 million, down from $112 million in the second quarter of fiscal year 2012.?

Diluted earnings per share from continuing operations for the quarter were $0.32, equal to the second quarter of fiscal year 2012.? The diluted share count for the quarter was 333 million, down 2 percent from 339 million in the second quarter of fiscal year 2012.

Segment Operating Results???


Three Months Ended





July 31


Revenue Growth (%)


2012

2011


Total

Internal


($ in millions)




Revenues:?






Defense Solutions

$ ? ? ? ?1,240

$ ? ? ? ? 1,085


14%

14%

Health, Energy and Civil Solutions

692

656


5%

-1%

Intelligence and Cybersecurity Solutions

919

854


8%

8%

Corporate and Other

-

1


n/a

n/a

Intersegment Elimination

(3)

-


n/a

n/a

Total

$ ? ? ? ?2,848

$ ? ? ? ? 2,596


10%

8%











?Operating Margin?

Operating Income (Loss):




FY 2013

FY 2012

Defense Solutions

$ ? ? ? ? ? ? 92

$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?88


7.4%

8.1%

Health Energy and Civil Solutions

53

60


7.7%

9.1%

Intelligence and Cybersecurity Solutions

69

76


7.5%

8.9%

Corporate and Other

(23)

(15)


n/a

n/a

Total

$ ? ? ? ? ? 191

$ ? ? ? ? ? ?209


6.7%

8.1%

?


Six Months Ended





July 31


Revenue Growth (%)


2012

2011


Total

Internal


($ in millions)




Revenues:?






Defense Solutions

$ ? ? ? ?2,414

$ ? ? ? ? 2,222


9%

9%

Health, Energy and Civil Solutions

1,370

1,313


4%

-2%

Intelligence and Cybersecurity Solutions

1,849

1,750


6%

6%

Corporate and Other

-

1


n/a

n/a

Intersegment Elimination

(3)

(2)


n/a

n/a

Total

$ ? ? ? ?5,630

$ ? ? ? ? 5,284


7%

5%











?Operating Margin?

Operating Income (Loss):




FY 2013

FY 2012

Defense Solutions

$ ? ? ? ? ? 193

$ ? ? ? ? ? ?178


8.0%

8.0%

Health Energy and Civil Solutions

100

114


7.3%

8.7%

Intelligence and Cybersecurity Solutions

135

162


7.3%

9.3%

Corporate and Other

(29)

(15)


n/a

n/a

Total

$ ? ? ? ? ? 399

$ ? ? ? ? ? ?439


7.1%

8.3%

Defense Solutions

Defense Solutions revenues for the quarter increased 14 percent from the second quarter of fiscal year 2012, all of which was internal growth.? This growth was attributable to increased activity on a number of programs including a systems and software development program for the U.S. Army, a program to operate and maintain the enterprise network IT infrastructure for the U.S. Department of State, a systems integration and logistics program for tactical and mine resistant ambush protected vehicles, an IT infrastructure support services program for an agency of the DoD, and the ramp up of a program with the Defense Logistics Agency to provide supply chain management of military land and aircraft tires.? These increases were partially offset by reduced revenue from the U.S. Army Brigade Combat Team Modernization (BCTM) contract, which was terminated during the third quarter of fiscal year 2012.

Defense Solutions operating income for the quarter was 7.4 percent of revenue, down from 8.1 percent of revenue in the second quarter of fiscal year 2012.? The decrease was attributable to increased bid and proposal costs and net unfavorable changes in contract estimates primarily arising from a $6 million profit write-down on the BCTM contract as a result of ongoing contract negotiations with the government.

Health, Energy and Civil Solutions

Health, Energy and Civil Solutions revenues for the quarter increased 5 percent from the second quarter of fiscal year 2012.? Internal revenues decreased 1 percent due to declines in various Federal Civilian programs and program completions with federal health information technology customers, particularly with U.S. DoD Military Health System customers.? These increases were partially offset by an increase in healthcare IT consulting services with commercial clients.

Health, Energy and Civil Solutions operating income for the quarter was 7.7 percent of revenue, down from 9.1 percent of revenue in the second quarter of fiscal year 2012.?The decline was primarily due to net unfavorable changes in contract estimates,?driven in part by $5 million of profit write-downs on?certain energy and construction projects, and a $3 million lease termination charge related to a consolidation of facilities.? These decreases were partially offset by reduced research and development expense resulting from the advancement through the product development lifecycle of new non-intrusive inspection system offerings.

Intelligence and Cybersecurity Solutions

Intelligence and Cybersecurity Solutions revenues for the quarter increased 8 percent, all of which was internal growth, from the second quarter of fiscal year 2012, primarily due to increased activity on two airborne surveillance programs and a new intelligence gathering and analysis solution program.

Intelligence and Cybersecurity Solutions operating income for the quarter was 7.5 percent of revenue, down from 8.9 percent of revenue in the second quarter of fiscal year 2012, due to increased bid and proposal costs and research and development costs as well as lower sales of proprietary software products that have higher relative margins.

Corporate and Other

Corporate and Other segment operating income for the quarter declined from the second quarter of fiscal year 2012, primarily due to $11 million of charges associated with the corporate relocation and the strategic review leading to the planned separation announced today.

Cash Generation and Capital Deployment

Cash flow provided by operations for the quarter was $200 million, compared to $56 million for the second quarter of fiscal year 2012.? Days sales outstanding were 63 days this quarter compared to 74 days in the prior year quarter.

During the quarter, the Company settled $550 million of long-term debt at its maturity and paid a cash dividend of $0.12 per share.? The Company intends to continue paying dividends on a quarterly basis, although the declaration of any future dividends will be determined by the Company's Board of Directors each quarter and will depend on earnings, financial condition, capital requirements and other factors.

As of July 31, 2012, the Company had $756 million in cash and cash equivalents and $1.3 billion in long-term debt.

Subsequent to the end of the quarter, the Company completed the previously announced acquisition of maxIT Healthcare Holdings, Inc. (maxIT), a leading healthcare information technology consulting firm.

New Business Awards

Net business bookings totaled $2.2 billion in the second quarter of fiscal year 2013, representing a book-to-bill ratio of 0.8.? Notable awards received during the quarter include:

  • Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs (CA), Office of Consular Systems and Technology.? The Company was awarded a prime contract?to provide software engineering development, modernization, and enhancement; and technical and operations support services for CA's visa, American citizen services, and passport business processes.? The multiple-award, indefinite-delivery/indefinite-quantity (IDIQ) contract has a one-year base period of performance, four one-year options, and a contract ceiling value of approximately $750 million.
  • U.S. Army/Research Development and Engineering Command Intelligence and Information Warfare Directorate.? The Company was awarded a prime contract to provide Vigilant Pursuit system design, production, testing, delivery, spares, training, and field service representative services in support of the U.S. Army Multi-functional Teams.? The single-award firm-fixed price contract has a one-year period of performance and a contract value of approximately $37 million.
  • eHealth Saskatchewan Electronic Health Record System. The Company was awarded a prime contract to provide implementation and maintenance technology services in support of the province's Electronic Health Record system.? The single-award IDIQ contract has a three-year period of performance and a total contract value of $16 million.

The following notable award was received after the end of the quarter:

  • U.S. Army Geospatial Center.? The Company was awarded a prime contract by the U.S. Army Geospatial Center to provide Geospatial Research, Intelligence, Development and Support related to Geospatial Enterprise Services.??The IDIQ contract has a one-year base period of performance, four one-year options, and a total contract value of $200 million, if all options are exercised.

The Company's backlog of signed business orders at the end of the second quarter of fiscal year 2013 was $16.7 billion, of which $5.5 billion was funded. ?As compared to the end of the second quarter of fiscal year 2012, total backlog decreased 6 percent while funded backlog increased 5 percent. Negotiated unfunded backlog does not include any estimate of future task orders expected to be awarded under IDIQ, GSA Schedule or other master agreement contract vehicles.

Forward Guidance

Based upon its operating and business development performance through the second quarter of the fiscal year and the August 2012 acquisition of maxIT, the Company is increasing its expectation for fiscal year 2013 revenues.? Profit on the increased revenue?expectations?is offset by projected?expenses related to execution of the planned separation announced today.? Accordingly, guidance for diluted earnings per share from continuing operations and cash flows from operations remain unchanged.? The revised fiscal year 2013 guidance is:

  • Revenues of $10.9 billion to $11.4 billion;
  • Diluted earnings per share from continuing operations of $1.26 to $1.36; and
  • Cash flows from continuing operations at or above $150 million

Fiscal year 2013 guidance excludes the impact of potential future acquisitions and other non-ordinary course items.?

About SAIC

SAIC is a FORTUNE 500? scientific, engineering, and technology applications company that uses its deep domain knowledge to solve problems of vital importance to the nation and the world, in national security, energy and the environment, critical infrastructure, and health.? The Company's approximately 40,000 employees serve customers in the U.S. Department of Defense, the intelligence community, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, other U.S. Government civil agencies and selected commercial markets.? Headquartered in McLean, Va., SAIC had annual revenues of approximately $10.6 billion for its fiscal year ended January 31, 2012.? For more information, visit www.saic.com.? SAIC:? From Science to Solutions?

Forward-Looking Statements

Certain statements in this release contain or are based on "forward-looking" information within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. In some cases, you can identify forward-looking statements by words such as "expects, " "intends, " "plans," "anticipates, " "believes, " "estimates, " "guidance, " and similar words or phrases. Forward-looking statements in this release include, among others, estimates of future revenues, operating income, earnings, earnings per share, charges, backlog, outstanding shares and cash flows, as well as statements about future dividends, share repurchases and acquisitions. These statements reflect our belief and assumptions as to future events that may not prove to be accurate. Actual performance and results may differ materially from the guidance and other forward-looking statements made in this release depending on a variety of factors, including: our ability to declare future dividends based on our earnings, financial condition, capital requirements and other factors, including compliance with applicable law and agreements of the Company; our ability to comply with certain agreements entered into in connection with the CityTime settlement; developments in the U.S. Government defense budget, including budget reductions, implementation of spending cuts (sequestration) or changes in budgetary priorities, or delays in the U.S. Government budget process; delays in the U.S. Government contract procurement process or the award of contracts and delays or loss of contracts as a result of competitor protests; changes in U.S. Government procurement rules, regulations and practices; our compliance with various U.S. Government and other government procurement rules and regulations; governmental reviews, audits and investigations of our company; our ability to effectively compete and win contracts with the U.S. Government and other customers; our ability to attract, train and retain skilled employees, including our management team, and to obtain security clearances for our employees; our ability to accurately estimate costs associated with our firm-fixed-price and other contracts; cybersecurity, data security or other security threats, systems failures or other disruptions of our business; resolution of legal and other disputes with our customers and others or legal or regulatory compliance issues; our ability to effectively acquire businesses and make investments; our ability to maintain relationships with prime contractors, subcontractors and joint venture partners; our ability to manage performance and other risks related to customer contracts, including complex engineering or design build projects; the failure of our inspection or detection systems to detect threats; the adequacy of our insurance programs designed to protect us from significant product or other liability claims; our ability to manage risks associated with our international business; risks associated with the proposed spin-off of our technical services business, such as disruption to business operations, unanticipated expenses, significant transaction costs and/or unknown liabilities, the timing of the spin-off or a failure to complete the proposed spin-off or realize the expected benefits of the proposed spin-off; and our ability to execute our business plan and long-term management initiatives effectively and to overcome these and other known and unknown risks that we face.? These are only some of the factors that may affect the forward-looking statements contained in this release. For further information concerning risks and uncertainties associated with our business, please refer to the filings we make from time to time with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, including the "Risk Factors," "Management's Discussion and Analysis of Financial Condition and Results of Operations" and "Legal Proceedings" sections of our latest annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q, all of which may be viewed or obtained through the Investor Relations section of our web site at www.saic.com.

All information in this release is as of August 30, 2012. The Company expressly disclaims any duty to update the guidance or any other forward-looking statement provided in this release to reflect subsequent events, actual results or changes in the Company's expectations. ?The Company also disclaims any duty to comment upon or correct information that may be contained in reports published by investment analysts or others.

?

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SAIC, INC.

CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF INCOME?

(Unaudited, in millions, except per share amounts)












Three Months Ended


Six Months Ended





July 31


July 31





2012

2011


2012

2011










Revenues?


$ ? ? ? ? ? ?2,848

$ ? ? ? ? ? ?2,596


$ ? ? ? ? ? ?5,630

$ ? ? ? ? ? ?5,284

Costs and expenses:








Cost of revenues?


2,504

2,258


4,952

4,615


Selling, general and administrative expenses


153

129


279

230

Operating income


191

209


399

439

Non-operating income (expense):








Interest income?


2

-


4

1


Interest expense?


(24)

(28)


(53)

(56)


Other income, net


4

1


6

5

Income from continuing operations before income taxes?


173

182


356

389

Provision for income taxes


(63)

(70)


(129)

(147)

Income from continuing operations?


110

112


227

242

Discontinued operations:?








Income from discontinued operations before income taxes


-

115


-

117


Provision for income taxes


-

(49)


-

(50)

Income from discontinued operations?


-

66


-

67

Net income


$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 110

$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 178


$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 227

$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 309










Earnings per share (EPS):








?Income from continuing operations, as reported?


$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 110

$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 112


$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 227

$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 242



?Less: allocation of distributed and undistributed earnings to participating securities?


(2)

(4)


(6)

(9)


?Income from continuing operations, for computing EPS?


$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 108

$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 108


$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 221

$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 233











?Net income, as reported?


$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 110

$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 178


$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 227

$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 309



?Less: allocation of distributed and undistributed earnings to participating securities?


(2)

(7)


(6)

(11)


?Net income, for computing EPS?


$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 108

$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 171


$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 221

$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 298











Basic:?









Income from continuing operations?


$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0.32

$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0.32


$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0.67

$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0.68



Income from discontinued operations?


-

0.19


-

0.19





$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0.32

$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0.51


$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0.67

$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0.87


Diluted:?









Income from continuing operations?


$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0.32

$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0.32


$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0.67

$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0.68



Income from discontinued operations?


-

0.18


-

0.19





$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0.32

$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0.50


$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0.67

$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0.87


Weighted average number of shares outstanding:









Basic


333

338


332

342



Diluted?


333

339


332

343

?

SAIC, INC.

CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED BALANCE SHEETS

(Unaudited, in millions)











July 31,
2012


January 31,
2012

ASSETS?





Current assets:






Cash and cash equivalents


$ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 756


$ ? ? ? ? ? ?1,592


Receivables, net


1,992


2,174


Inventory, prepaid expenses and other current assets?


430


439


???? Total current assets



3,178


4,205

Property, plant and equipment, net


324


348

Intangible assets, net?


156


176

Goodwill?


1,826


1,826

Deferred income taxes


22


37

Other assets?


74


75





$ ? ? ? ? ? ?5,580


$ ? ? ? ? ? ?6,667








LIABILITIES AND STOCKHOLDERS' EQUITY





Current liabilities:






Accounts payable and accrued liabilities?


$ ? ? ? ? ? ?1,296


$ ? ? ? ? ? ?1,964


Accrued payroll and employee benefits?


473


508


Income taxes payable


9


-


Notes payable and long-term debt, current portion


3


553


???? Total current liabilities



1,781


3,025

Notes payable and long-term debt, net of current portion?


1,297


1,299

Other long-term liabilities?


143


162








Stockholders' equity:?






Common stock, $.0001 par value, 2 billion shares authorized,
342 million and 341 million shares issued and outstanding at
July 31, 2012 and January 31, 2012, respectively


-


-


Additional paid-in capital?


2,064


2,028


Retained earnings?


296


164


Accumulated other comprehensive loss?


(1)


(11)


Total stockholders' equity


2,359


2,181





$ ? ? ? ? ? ?5,580


$ ? ? ? ? ? ?6,667

?

SAIC, INC.


CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF CASH FLOWS


(Unaudited, in millions)















Three Months Ended


Six Months Ended





July 31


July 31





2012

2011


2012

2011

Cash flows from operating activities of continuing operations:?








Net income


$ ? ? ? ? ? ?110

$ ? ? ? ? ? ?178


$ ? ? ? ? ? ?227

$ ? ? ? ? ? ?309


Income from discontinued operations?


-

(66)


-

(67)


Adjustments to reconcile net income to net cash provided by (used in) operating activities of?








?continuing operations:









Depreciation and amortization?


28

27


55

55



Stock-based compensation


22

19


46

43



Impairment losses


1

-


1

-



Net gain on sales and disposals of assets


(5)

(20)


(6)

(28)



Other


-

-


1

1



Increase (decrease) in cash and cash equivalents, excluding effects of acquisitions and divestitures,









?resulting from changes in:

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